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Summary: | consistent numbering features terminology | ||
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Product: | Writer | Reporter: | guido.pinkernell |
Component: | ui | Assignee: | AOO issues mailing list <issues> |
Status: | CONFIRMED --- | QA Contact: | |
Severity: | Trivial | ||
Priority: | P3 | CC: | issues |
Version: | OOo 1.1 | ||
Target Milestone: | --- | ||
Hardware: | All | ||
OS: | Windows 98 | ||
Issue Type: | ENHANCEMENT | Latest Confirmation in: | --- |
Developer Difficulty: | --- |
Description
guido.pinkernell
2004-02-14 14:18:58 UTC
Please do. The current terminology is highly confusing, doesn't do what it claims to do (that is, "Outline Numbering" does not change outline numbering, but does other things -- same for the other categories). I see five numbering schemes: Outline numbering -- to refer to outlines (multi-line outlines) Chapter numbering -- which should be made as a separate mode Line numbering -- which should simply affect line numbers Paragraph numbers -- which should refer to paragraphs with some text (and not to blank lines terminated by a paragraph marker) List numbering -- which should apply to simple outlines (single-line outlines and lists). I find that sometimes I want one feature in numbering only to find that when I change to what I want, something else in the document is screwed up because it refers to that same feature. Constant complaints about outline numbering keep appearing on the user's lists because the terminology and implementation of numbering is so confused. Certainly the planned changes are a step in the right direction. But a more formal, and user-controllable, hierarchy of numbering systems is desirable: - the ability to have independant counters inside other counters (eg. heading, figure and table being independant inside section/chapter. - Similarly, allowing other user-defined counters that may exist with no parent counter, or may restart in sections etc etc. - The abaility to cross-reference to any paragraph style and have available the relevant number for the heading/line etc. The last is not really relevant to the numbering scheme except in so far as the scheme must be able to provide and update such links. I've had a look at the spec now, and it seems a little sketchy. It also seems very tightly bound to UI rather than function, which I assume is deliberate. In terms of the UI I like the grey b/g for numbers and would like to see an option to preserve it. When importing a badly written document it will be immediately apparent whether it has properly numbered paragraphs (or, if a Word user, they have just typed the numbers). I can appreciate the need for a 'numbering styles' dialog for compatibility to Word, but I see no clear reason to have one if you are tring to design a clean interface. In my view numbering is part of a paragraph style, nothing more. Suppose you want to define 'Heading Level 2; numbering, then in the paragraph stylist, it should be simply a matter of: - pick the 'counter' to use (eg. 'Main' or 'Chapter' or any other predefined or user-defined counter) - Specify the numbering 'level' of *this* style (eg. if using the 'Chapter' counter, the I assume we have Chapter.Heading1.Heading2, so the levelm would be 2 or 3 depending on whether counting starts at 0 or 1). - Specify the numbering format. This is the hardest part; one option is to use plain text, and define a simple system such as n.n.n would result in 1.2.3, n.na would result in 1.2c, and __(a) would result in (c) (ie. no prefix numbers) etc. A better solution might be to allow a full styling dialog allowing for character format chages (eg. bold) and other features such as spacing to paragraph body. Numbering (eg. line numbering) may even want to be offset outside the paragraph borders. set target not determined reassigned to bh OpenOffice.org Issue Tracker - Feedback Request. The Issue you raised has the status 'New' pending further action, but has not been updated within the last 4 years. Please consider re-testing with one of the latest versions of OOo, as the problem(s) may have already been addressed. Either use the recent stable version: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html or consider trying the new OOo 3 BETA (still in testing): http://download.openoffice.org/3.0beta/ Please report back the outcome so this Issue may be Closed or Progressed as necessary - otherwise it may be Resolved as Invalid in the future. You may also wish to search for (and note) any duplicates of this Issue that may have advanced further by checking the Issue Tracker: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/query.cgi Many thanks, Andrew Cleaning-up and Closing old Issues as part of: ~ The Grand Bug Squash, pre v3 ~ http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/announcementbeta.html To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on my owner to the owner "requirements". |